was that an ache or a pain hold on a sec here it comes again if i had to give it a name it definitely would be a pain now to guess where it comes from up or down back to front in or out out to lunch points in-between is my hunch can it be helped with advil or do i need something stronger still to try and take the pain to nill or at least bend it's will this ache that i now know as pain that makes its way into my brain that is the best at playing games disappears shows up again it's such an ache to deal with pain