Hello - Hello? - Who are you? I am. Am what? I am that I am. And what is that? Everything. Be more specific! I cannot. Why not? I have no point to measure up to. What does that mean? I conceived the self that I am, I speaks for me, I sees, hears, tastes and smells for me. But I am not the I. What do you mean? A mind that conceives its self cannot use its self to see its self. Just like a knife can't cut itself nor can fire burn itself. So you are the mind? I don't know. I don't understand! That's because you already know. Now you have lost me! That too is a concept you know and have chosen to pour energy into. Where energy flows there is life. But I didn't choose to be confused! You chose knowing over not knowing. Anything new to you has a point to measure up to. Was I wrong? I don't know. What do you know? Nothing. How can you know nothing? Haven't you experienced anything? To you nothing is a conception measured against having something. For me there is nothing to experience outside my self if I am everything. So you are the creator? I don't know. Then what are you? Nothing. You can't be nothing otherwise you don't exist! I don't exist. What does that mean? I am without form I am that I am. I measure up to nothing. Now I don't understand! So now you know. Because you have relinquished the desire and pursuit of knowing, of understanding. That is karma. What is karma? Ignorance of action.