in terms of talking?
                       rhetoric.
   in terms of couting?
arithmetic.
  ergo?
        rhetoric = arithmetic;
i.e. the unconscious
     "counting"
   of words...
             or let's just assume
that someone is
not so much persuading
you to prompt talking,
but that the talking
   is prompt immune
       and that you
simply talk for the sake
of talking, in that implosive
guise of per se;
since the letters reach
only to the status of
the 26 all-encompassing,
you never really bother
keeping an arithmetic count
on the number of words
used...
     nonetheless,
       beyond arithmetic,
in terms of using words,
therefore beyond rhetoric,
you enter the realm
of "dialectics", i.e. diacritic
   application.