I was in an interview with a Zen master, who demonstrated his practice, and his breathing was so deep and long that I thought I couldn't possibly keep up, so I tried and succeeded one time and ran completely out of breath, so he told me to practice strongly, and I did for years, trying harder and harder to get that deep kind of breath, until I finally realized that actually, for me, a little breath, a small gentle kind of breathing is much better for me, so I decided to go with that, and said, "**** the Zen master."