i did some d.i.y it ended s.o.s it wasnt very good just an utter mess i put up a shelf it was on a ***** i was just so useless a proper odd job dope i tried something else like a curtain rail curtains they fell down yet another fail then i put a picture up using just a ***** something that was easy something i could do it wasnt meant to be the picture didnt hang the ***** fallen out it went with a bang shattered in to pieces all along the floor i stopped the d.i.y dont do it anymore