they always, always! they always throw this ******* debate into a juggling act between joseph merrick and stephen hawking... always! **** gets boring... choose another pair of cripples! maybe they had ulterior motives of sadism to prove someone wrong... **** ain't working... choose some other excuse for you little tabloid philosophy to have page 3 **** dangling over your pressurisation of that famous english unmovable utilitarianism movement - apparently the hammer was utilised without nails hammered in in mind, it was also used for crunchy skull floating oats!