yes, yes, it's very hard to understand suicide in western society, it comes a bit simpler to understand in asia, something western society forgot:
pride + honour = suicide...
well... **** me, that must be hard to comprehend... very, very hard... you obiously have to have a bunch of quacks to explain these "primitive" concepts... must be hard to rekindle the ideas of pride & honour... esp. when you're supposed to only believe in a "self-love" / "self-righetous" christian inclination to depreciate an act of actual self-worth - or what the asians might call: the complete surrender toward the concept of self-will...
but as western culture stresses it: you can't be entombed within the concept of free-will... you have to die the robotic-death of social-norms, of social-expectations, of collective morals...
you know what, ******? you reach the age of 70+, then go into a care-home, and then get *****! and then take a slosh in your bed and lie in your **** for days on end! then tell me, what's immoral about the gravity of the asian concept of self-inflicted honour and the depreciation of our "fellow" human "brother / sister"... **** your idiotic geometric idol of the crucific!
i can't believe it takes an idiot like myself to explain to you the asian sentiment for suicide: see you in a place that's worse than a graveyard... but **** me, i hope i never make it... not with a bunch of these granny-****** retards...
within the told stories... suicide? who cares about your ethical conundrum debate? considering the fate of these old people... it's seems much more of a release than a theologian's curse akin to dante's poem... never mind the after-life... given the people framed toward a mortality, i can hardly wish for an immortality and ask them to also be present... thankfuly, i die and hold nothing but a stone as treasure, and say: yep: ought to be a loaf of bread... god... they have to give up so much... at least my existence is so governing & staged miserable, that i'll gladly lie upon the altar of death and cite what death has to cite, upon giving me unto the aztec sun for its setting bound sacrifice;