Nicholas Tremulis, Wade Hayes, two of my favorite singles but rather obscure next to Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder. Louis Lucas and Ronnie Levick, rather obscure Bandstanders compared to Kenny and Arlene and Justin and Bob. Joe Mota and Ed Perry, two obscure Illini compared to **** Butkus and Johnny "Red" Kirk Loren Tate and Bob Rasmussen, two Champaign-Urbana New Gazette sports writers not very known compared to nationally based sports writers **** Shoop and **** Young Obscurity vs. fame - Is it necessary? Just like poverty vs. wealth - Is that necessary? I just wish we all could be wealthy and famous!