sitting around the thanksgiving table the turkey was yummy, the weather turned frigid conversation mellowly roamed to tales of childhood abuse "when our son was a baby," i recalled "we watched him trying to crawl and our then-brother-in-law Nick a self-styled hardass and an *** in general asked what do you do to discipline him? discipline him from doing what? i asked pooping his diaper? you know Nick, as a kid my mother slapped my face when she thought it appropriate we negated that strategy for our kids" my wife, who often recounted beatings she took from her dad, then told a story new to me her mother's family were russian immigrants and when her mother was a kid and did something to set off her dad he would make her kneel on a wooden plank until her knees bled, then he'd rub salt in them we all thought about that until my wife said, "we have cookies"