..if we are lucky, we are going to have perhaps a thousand years of non-representational painting; To my mind certain so-called abstraction is not abstraction at all; it is the realism for our times; We were outcasts, rough expressionist painters not acceptable to most dealers & collectors; [A reference to the TEN] The role of the artist, has always been that of the mage-maker; & different times require different images; My favorite symbols those I do not understand